2025

The Bankstown Hospital Nurses Case

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Introduction

On the night shift at Bankstown-Lidcombe Hospital, in Sydney's south-west, two registered nurses in NSW Health uniforms opened a random video chat.

The app was Chatruletka, which pairs strangers at random. On the other end of the call was an Israeli content creator, Max Veifer, who posted an edited clip of the conversation on the morning of 12 February 2025.

In the clip, Sarah Abu Lebdeh tells him: "It's Palestine's country, not your country, you piece of shit." She says that when his time comes she wants him to remember her face, so he will understand he will die "the most disgusting death." Asked what she would do if an Israeli patient came into the hospital, she says: "I won't treat them. I will kill them."

Ahmad Rashad Nadir tells Veifer he is going to get killed and go to Jahannam, hell. He says Veifer has no idea how many Israelis have come to that hospital, and that he has sent them to hell. On camera he draws a hand across his throat. He introduces himself as a doctor, but he was in fact a nurse.

The longer cut

Two days later Veifer released a longer version. Police said they had not yet been handed an unedited file directly from him. In the longer cut the exchange continues: Abu Lebdeh repeats that she will not treat them, she will kill them, and Nadir nods. When she is asked whether that extends to Jewish people, the published cut ends.

NSW Health and NSW Police later said there was no evidence that any patient at Bankstown Hospital had been harmed.

What the pair said afterwards

Nadir's solicitor, Mohamad Sakr, said his client had sent a sincere apology to Veifer and to the Jewish community. Abu Lebdeh's uncle told The Australian she was sorry for the remarks. Sky News reported that Nadir told a journalist from The Australian it was a joke and a misunderstanding, and that he had not meant to offend. On the night of 13 February, police were called to Nadir's home over a concern for his welfare, and he was taken to hospital for assessment. He was 27 and she was 26.

Government Response

Stood down the same morning

Health Minister Ryan Park said he learned of the video early on 12 February: "At about 7.20 this morning, I was informed and made aware of one of the most vile, shocking and appalling videos I have ever seen." By mid-morning both nurses had been stood down, and the matter had been referred to NSW Police.

Park said the two nurses subject to the investigation "will not ever be working for New South Wales Health again." Premier Chris Minns said anyone who walks into an emergency department or onto a ward in NSW will be treated by people who care about them, and called for an ironclad investigation.

Later that day Park said: "What these two individuals have done is destroyed confidence in our health system", and: "I don't care whether they thought it was a joke." NSW Health Secretary Susan Pearce said: "Never in my wildest dreams did I think that I would be standing here with two staff of the New South Wales Health System having said such horrendous things".

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese called the video disgusting and the comments vile. "The footage is sickening and shameful," he said. "These anti-Semitic comments, driven by hate, have no place in our health system and no place anywhere in Australia." Bankstown MP Tony Burke and federal Health Minister Mark Butler put out a joint line to the same effect.

The Opposition used its first question in federal Question Time that afternoon on the video. Albanese told the House the footage was "disgusting, sickening and shameful", that the two nurses had been stood down and referred to NSW Police for criminal investigation, and that it was "clear" they had committed crimes.

Registrations suspended

The next day, 13 February 2025, the Nursing and Midwifery Council of NSW suspended both registrations, effective that day. The Council said it had acted to protect the health and safety of the public and to maintain confidence in the profession. Ahpra updated the public register. From then the pair could not practise nursing anywhere in Australia, in any context.

Mark Butler, speaking as federal Health Minister, said Australians have a right to feel safe wherever they go, and that nowhere should be safer than a hospital. The Council said it could not release its reasons. The nurses had a right of appeal to the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal.

A rapid review of patient-safety incidents at Bankstown over the previous year found nothing that set the hospital apart from others, although Park said the detailed work had only just begun. Strike Force Pearl, the police operation already running on antisemitic incidents, took over the hospital inquiry. Detectives interviewed staff, established where the video was filmed and seized CCTV.

The charges

On 26 February 2025 Sarah Abu Lebdeh was charged with three offences: threatening violence to a group, using a carriage service to threaten to kill, and using a carriage service to harass or cause offence. She was bailed, barred from social media, and barred from leaving the country.

On 4 March 2025 Ahmad Rashad Nadir was charged with using a carriage service to menace, harass or offend, and with possessing a prohibited drug. He was bailed to the same March court date.

Police Commissioner Karen Webb said the overseas witness had made the investigation harder, and that detectives had moved under enormous public pressure. Authorities repeated that there was no evidence the pair had harmed a patient.

In September 2025 prosecutors dropped the threat-to-kill charge against Abu Lebdeh, but the other charges remained. On 2 February 2026 both pleaded not guilty in the NSW District Court.

The video goes out, then comes back

Their lawyers argued the call had been recorded without consent, and that NSW law on private conversations kept it out of the courtroom. On 23 June 2026 Judge Michael McHugh agreed and excluded the video and the other recordings from both trials.

The Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions appealed. On 31 July 2026 the NSW Supreme Court set that ruling aside and allowed the unedited recording to be used. At the time of the first reports, the court had not published its full reasons.

The trial was moved and is listed to begin on 12 October 2026. No verdict has been reached, and a jury has not yet been asked to decide.

First, condemnation

In the days after the clip, Muslim leaders and community bodies condemned the words themselves.

Imam Syed Wadood Janud of Perth's Nasir Mosque said the remarks were factually contradictory to what Islam teaches about the afterlife, and that "such vile remarks have no place in our faith." Imam Kamran Tahir of Adelaide's Mahmood Mosque said service to mankind is the essence of Islam. Twenty-four Hazara community organisations called the alleged threats abhorrent. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in Perth said the comments contradicted the teachings. Queensland Muslim leader Ali Kadri called them vile, and said concern about Gaza was not an excuse.

On the street in Bankstown

In the days after the clip, television crews asked people in Bankstown what they made of it. Many condemned it. One man told a reporter that people put their trust in the public health system, and that the comments deserved a full investigation. Another said that for nurses to joke like that was "not funny."

Some called it a joke. A Bankstown cafe owner told a reporter it was probably a prank, though he said nurses should be educated enough not to say such things. Another man said they had lost their jobs "for a little joke."

Not everyone condemned it. Asked by Sky News, one man said: "They have a free right to say whatever they want." He said: "I stand with them." When the reporter put it to him that someone had threatened to kill and not treat a Jewish patient, he answered: "And what about all the kids that Jews have killed?"

The LMA secretary on air

Before the statement was published, Lebanese Muslim Association secretary Gamel Kheir was interviewed by Laura Jayes on Sky News. He said: "we condemn such hate speech but I will not condemn the individuals." He said condemning them personally "serves no purpose other than to isolate them", and asked: "Has anyone checked on their mental health?" He said it did not help "when we have politicians and the media making political mileage out of such events."

He compared the nurses to Sam Kerr. Of her, he said: "do we condemn her. No we don't."

Jayes played footage of a speaker at Lakemba on 8 October 2023 saying: "It's a day of courage. It's a day of pride. It's a day of victory." Kheir said: "That statement unedited was a support for the resistance". He said he had no tolerance for antisemitism, Islamophobia or "any form of racism or vilification", and that this was the belief of "99.9% of the Muslim community".

Kheir later signed the statement in his own name.

Then a different letter

On Sunday 16 February 2025 a document titled United Muslim Community Statement was posted on Instagram by The Muslim Vote, and shared by Stand 4 Palestine Australia. Its cover line was: "We condemn the hypocrisy over nurses controversy."

United Muslim Community Statement, page 1
United Muslim Community Statement, page 2
United Muslim Community Statement, page 3
The United Muslim Community Statement as posted on Instagram, 16 February 2025 (3 pages - tap to enlarge).

The statement opens on the date. "On Wednesday, 12 February 2025, Israeli content creator Max Veifer posted an edited snippet of a video conversation with two nurses from Bankstown Hospital." It says the outrage was amplified by a coordinated media campaign. It says Veifer is a recently serving member of the Israeli military, "and was thus involved in the genocide of the people of Gaza."

It affirms that discrimination on race and religion is unacceptable, and that healthcare should be provided justly to all. It says the statement is not about defending inappropriate remarks.

It then says: "The most revealing aspect of the reaction to the nurses' video is not the video itself — but the speed, intensity, and uniformity of response from certain political leaders and media outlets." It names the Prime Minister. It says the NSW Health Minister declared the clip the most vile thing he had ever seen. It calls that response "calculated, politically motivated outrage" and "the deliberate engineering of public morality."

In the NSW Legislative Council it was described as "signed by more than 70 organisations and community leaders". Among the organisations: the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, the Islamic Council of Victoria, the Islamic Council of Western Australia, Hizb ut-Tahrir Australia, The Muslim Vote, and the Al Madina Dawah Centre. Among the individuals: Muslim Vote candidates Ziad Basyouny and Ahmed Ouf, Lebanese Muslim Association secretary Gamel Kheir, and Sheikh Ibrahim Dadoun.

Three peak bodies were not on the list as organisations: the Australian National Imams Council, the United Muslims of Australia and the Lebanese Muslim Association. Kheir and Dadoun signed in their own names, but their organisations did not.

The man who did not sign

Dr Jamal Rifi did not sign.

Rifi is a general practitioner in Belmore, in the same part of Sydney, and a long-standing Lebanese Australian community figure. He told the ABC he was shocked. "No health practitioner should ever treat anyone differently based on their religion, culture or nationality. We treat them as human beings." He said the incident had tainted the community, and that people were waiting to use it against everyone else.

Days earlier, on Sky News with Chris Kenny, he said: "It is abhorrent of what they have done", and "there is no excuses for it whatsoever." He said: "These two people do not represent the view that is held in the Muslims community." He said they "should be investigated", because "these views should not be held in any health system".

Kadri, the Perth and Adelaide imams and the Hazara organisations had already condemned the words on the video. The letter condemned the reaction to them, while Rifi condemned the conduct.

What Parliament did with the letter

On 19 February 2025, in the NSW Legislative Council, Liberal MLC Taylor Martin asked the Treasurer whether any signatories had received NSW Government grant funding in the past two years. He described the statement as "signed by more than 70 organisations and community leaders". The President ruled the question out of order, because a motion on the same subject was listed for debate that day.

That evening, Liberal MLC Jacqui Munro moved a motion that condemned the statement and called on the Government to review any funding to its signatories, and to revoke funding for organisations that supported its views. The Government, through Minister Rose Jackson, amended the motion to remove the funding paragraphs. In their place, the House "rejects the United Muslim Community statement of 17 February 2025" and rejects "the statement's criticisms, including that the speed, intensity and uniformity of the media coverage and the political response to the incident amount to "selective outrage" and the "weaponisation of antisemitism"". The amendment passed 17 votes to 12, and the motion as amended was agreed to.

Jackson told the House: "The accusation that the Prime Minister and the Minister for Health were acting with selective outrage for political convenience is outrageous. It is simply not true and is a slur on them."

On 26 February 2025, a printout of the statement and its list of signatories was tabled in the Legislative Council by Liberal MLC Chris Rath.

Coalition senator James Paterson called the list of signatories alarming, and raised the public funding of organisations linked to some of the names.

Summary

Two Bankstown Hospital nurses, in uniform and on shift, told an Israeli man on a random video chat that they would not treat Israeli patients and would kill them. One said he had already sent Israelis who came through that hospital to hell. The clip was posted on 12 February 2025.

They were stood down the same morning, and their registrations were suspended the next day. The Health Minister said they would never work for NSW Health again. Police found no evidence that a patient had been harmed. Both were charged and have pleaded not guilty. A judge excluded the video, but a higher court allowed it back in. The trial has not yet started.

On the street in Bankstown, most people interviewed condemned the video, though some called it a joke and one man said: "I stand with them." On air, the Lebanese Muslim Association's secretary condemned the speech but would not condemn the nurses.

Within four days, a statement in the name of a united Muslim community condemned the speed and uniformity of the official response, calling it the deliberate engineering of public morality. Peak Islamic councils and Hizb ut-Tahrir signed it. The imams' council did not, and neither did Dr Jamal Rifi, who condemned the nurses.

The recording and the statement are attached. The suspension notice is a public document.

You be the judge.

Evidence

The Bankstown nurses case - the video

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